tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15081162.post8222030115455800611..comments2023-10-31T16:11:33.366+04:00Comments on Kusum Choppra: Deepika Vs MadhuriKusum Chopprahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15608707101740166467noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15081162.post-91326236148774011592016-12-22T22:10:59.477+04:002016-12-22T22:10:59.477+04:00This comment has been removed by the author.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07837834213375865593noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15081162.post-64617621643576918782016-12-22T20:12:49.328+04:002016-12-22T20:12:49.328+04:00Hey Mystery woman, Shilpa, since you cannot tell m...Hey Mystery woman, Shilpa, since you cannot tell me about yourself, all I can say is that I did not set out to hurt you or anybody. Only to seek Justice for the woman named Mastani, which has become a mission. And my book is a historical novel. keyword: Novel.<br />All the best. Hope we meet someday.Kusum Chopprahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15608707101740166467noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15081162.post-25392106526838708282016-12-22T13:27:52.094+04:002016-12-22T13:27:52.094+04:00This comment has been removed by the author.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07837834213375865593noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15081162.post-42849254810571258672016-12-22T12:33:03.540+04:002016-12-22T12:33:03.540+04:00Sorry Shipa dear, I cannot see the link between w...Sorry Shipa dear, I cannot see the link between where we started and where this discussion is headed; apart from mere reiteration of the practices earlier prevalent in the Chitpavan Brahmin Bhat family, which have been recorded in presumably authentic sources. <br />Personally I think one needs to be rational in accepting healthy practices and weeding out others that cause unnecessary family heartburn as we move forward in time. That is the practice in more communities in India and around the world, than you and I can keep track off. <br />Since the present head of the Peshwa family has accepted Mastani as his legally wedded wife, (such as may be the legalities of marriage in those times), I think this controversy in unnecessary. You are welcome to meet me for a discussion, but the matter is closed here.<br /><br />Kusum Choppra.Kusum Chopprahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15608707101740166467noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15081162.post-35617179580163752922016-12-22T07:13:54.597+04:002016-12-22T07:13:54.597+04:00This comment has been removed by the author.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07837834213375865593noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15081162.post-9026645851439946732016-12-21T11:51:55.736+04:002016-12-21T11:51:55.736+04:00This comment has been removed by the author.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07837834213375865593noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15081162.post-48137891126390238032016-12-21T11:30:16.472+04:002016-12-21T11:30:16.472+04:00This comment has been removed by the author.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07837834213375865593noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15081162.post-8280295228929388082016-12-21T11:28:59.211+04:002016-12-21T11:28:59.211+04:00This comment has been removed by the author.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07837834213375865593noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15081162.post-82768563046851833152016-12-20T10:45:16.795+04:002016-12-20T10:45:16.795+04:00Hi Shilpa,
Sorry for the delay in replying as I wa...Hi Shilpa,<br />Sorry for the delay in replying as I was a bit busy with other commitments. Hope you will forgive me.<br />About the Kashibai - Mastani interaction, let us just remember that Kashibai had grown up from childhood, playing with her husband Bajirao and never dreamt that he would one day bring in such a stunning beauty into their lives, whose dowry was to become the life blood of the Peshwai to boot!<br />Obviously she would try to keep herself unto the mark to maintain her position as Mrs. Bajirao. Unfortunately for her, Mastani was not only as well trained as her, but also beautiful and intelligent too. That gave her an edge that Kashibai tried to gain with her early association since childhood. Let us also remember that between 1731 when the family shifted into the Shanivar Wada at Pune and till Bajirao's death in 1740, Mastani bore him only one son, Krishnasinh in January 1734, and Kashibai 4, of whom only two survived, both born after Krishnasinh.<br />Obviously in a large political household, there would many lips whispering many things into very many ears, which would bear influence on minds, especially one threatened by the fear that the Peshwai might slip out of her son's grasp into that of his half brother who was the Zerox of Bajirao himself, Mastani's son, renamed Shamsher Bahadur.<br />A dance face-off between Kashibai and Mastani was not likely to happen as Kashibai had, after a long earlier illness, developed a slight limp.<br /><br />Regarding the matrugaman episode, you will find it referred to in very many renderings of Bajirao's life, both historical and social. Since Mastani's name was edited out of the Bakhars around 1800, there is not historical material as such, so the focus shifts to what are called secondary sources, books written in that period of later by different persons, diaries, commentaries etc etc.<br />Just as the conservative historians accepted the dancing girl myth after the editing of the Bakhar, they also agreed to depict not he matrugaman episode as an instance of Nana Saheb's total nubile and naive reliance on the machinations of his uncle Chimaji appa, in order to discredit Mastani in the eyes of Bajirao. <br />My observation is that Nana was neither nubile nor naive. He had been unto lot of stunts earlier too. He was a grown up, as old as Mastani was, @25 years old, whose wife's Godh Bharai for their first child had just been held then. Even if the suggestion came from someone else, is it not incumbent for the person to reflect on what they are doing, when and especially in the light of family relations -- more so in an important political sphere like the honor of the Peshwai itself? <br /><br />Kusum ChoppraKusum Chopprahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15608707101740166467noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15081162.post-71851650715680185662016-12-16T18:52:54.645+04:002016-12-16T18:52:54.645+04:00This comment has been removed by the author.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07837834213375865593noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15081162.post-34876619127840972812016-12-16T18:52:32.987+04:002016-12-16T18:52:32.987+04:00This comment has been removed by the author.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07837834213375865593noreply@blogger.com